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i am moving to a new file server under Server 2008 Standard 32bit edition. I will refer to the older server as just "server", the new one i named as server2.

i have updated server2 and patched it. I have also joined the domain as member server and set up the raid structure. I have also moved the data over to the right spot. BUT here is what i am not 100% sure on.

The company wants to keep the old name of "server", i did not want to do that and was thinking of just making a cname alias in AD DNS forward lookup zone to point to the new ip address of server2 but you can reference it as server. In order to do the alias i would naturally remove or rename the old server or just unjoin it from the domain altogether.

I have read that you can just rename a computer to a previous name in AD as long as you have unjoined and removed it from the appropirate list under Active Directory? Can i just rename a server that is a member server in a domain? Do i have to change the sid or run newsid?

Just looking for some best practices. thanks in advance. gd

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Is the old server a domain controller? Will this new server need to take over the DC roles? –  Zoredache Jun 5 '09 at 1:21
    
the old server is ONLY MEMBER SERVER NOT DOMAIN CONTROLLER. i have sbs 2003 running the dc roles at the head of forest and have a secondary server running as a DC for AD, DNS redudancy.gd –  user8256 Jun 5 '09 at 2:00

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I am assuming that SERVER and SERVER2 are both member server computers and not domain controller computers.

When I replace old server computers I try and assign the name of the old server computer I'm replacing to the new machine. This is a common practice. (If you're consolidating servers then that's a a whole different "can of worms".)

There's no problem with renaming a domain member server computer after it's joined to the domain. (Supposedly you can rename domain controllers in the Server 2008 version of Active Directory, but I haven't tried it yet.) Of course, in the case of re-using a name that was already assigned to another computer, you'll want to either take the original computer holding that name offline or rename it.

I've done what you're describing many, many times with various versions of Windows. From the point you've described, I'd rename "SERVER" to "OLDSERVER", and "SERVER2" to "SERVER", leaving both joined to the domain throughout the process. You don't have to disjoin "SERVER" from the domain in this process. Once you've renamed "SERVER" while joined to the domain to "OLDSERVER", the object in the AD previously named "SERVER" will change to "OLDSERVER", freeing the name "SERVER" to be assigned to "SERVER2".

As an aside: I have no idea why you'd be running "newsid" unless you installed the system from a disk image (and even then, you should be using SYSPREP to change the SID). You don't need to regnerate the SID unless the SID is a duplicate of another machine's (like if the machine is a disk cloned image of another machine).

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- yes server and server2 are only MEMBER SERVERS NOT DC - i will be renaming the old one as you suggested to serverold or oldserver - great advice thanks. and you are right not sure why i was thinking to use newsid. gd –  user8256 Jun 5 '09 at 1:57
    
smile You'll have good luck with that technique. It's nice to be able to change out a server and have the users see no change. When I can make a major infrastructure change and have nobody notice I'm a happy sysadmin. –  Evan Anderson Jun 5 '09 at 2:00
    
migration done, i had to reboot the workstation to get access to the shares after i had done the swap. thanks again. –  user8256 Jun 7 '09 at 1:57

I considered and ultimately rejected for our company doing the CNAME technique that you describe. Even though I considered it highly unlikely there might be some reason I wanted to continue accessing the old server. However, I consider the CNAME technique very useful and you may need to disable strict name checking, which I discuss in a question about warm standby

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Server 2008 may be different, but in general I try to avoid renaming Windows servers whenever possible. Most especially if there is non-Microsoft software (such as backup agents) installed on it. Microsoft themselves was bad enough at putting "servername" in the registry and random files instead of "%computername%" back in the NT and 2000 days, that it scared me off of it in 2003. That said, I've been impressed at how different 2008 is from 2003r1, so they may finally have the kinks worked out of renaming a long-standing server.

Which is to say, you CAN do it just like you found out. It works. All the deep in the bowels stuff uses SID, and the user-readable stuff as a variable. Newsid is a nice tool for catching all the leftovers if you're paranoid, but I believe you need to run that while undomained.

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sysadmin1138, thanks for the info, you are right newsid should be done before joining the domain, so that means i might have to undo some of what i have already done. –  user8256 Jun 5 '09 at 1:21

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