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We have several servers on colocation and now trying to re-organize the network by utilizing Cisco ASA 5505 as a router and Cisco 3750x series switch.

Network topology is looking like that:

    uplink
      |
+----------+
| ASA 5505 |
+----------+
      |
      |(trunk vlan10,101,102)
      |
+-----------+
|   3750x   |
+-----------+
      |
      |
      |
+--------------------------+
| Server N                 |
| 192.168.10.10  : vlan10  |
| 192.168.101.10 : vlan101 |
| 192.168.102.10 : vlan102 |
+--------------------------+

The problem with 3750x configuration as we need to deliver three different subnets (vlan 10,101,102) to the "Server N". "Server N" has multiple IPs from different subnets (vlan101 and 102) assigned to the same NIC. Plus, it has Base Motherboard Controller on board with another IP from vlan10. BMC shares the NIC - thus there is only one physical link from the server to switch.

Since 3750x doesn't allow having multiple vlans allowed on the same port with out trunking - what is the best way to configure the switch to allow this configuration?

UPDATE 2014-02-24:

The original question was asked a long time ago, so let me post the solution i found working for me with out messing with trunks and recompiling the system.

I used static routes to deliver traffic over a vlan to a server secondary addresses.

for the configuration above, the NIC has three subnets. Let's consider one of them as primary and include into VLAN configuration. Other two are going to be a routed subnets.

Here is the simple config:

    interface Vlan1
     ip address 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0
    !
    ip route 192.168.101.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.10.10
    ip route 192.168.102.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.10.10

This way you can add multiple secondary subnets to your server.

However, i believe this is not the best way to configure it as it keeps secondary subnets out of VLANs - thus it's not as secure as we want it. But this is going my next questions to professionals.

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    "Trunking" is practically defined as "having multiple VLANs on the same port". Why don't you trunk to the server? Apr 24, 2012 at 2:38
  • This requires additional OS configuration (like bonding) which is undesired. Many dedicated server providers are able to add additional IPs with out having you to reconfigure your server. We would like to go the same way first and keep "trunk to the server" as the last resort.
    – Eugene M
    Apr 24, 2012 at 2:58
  • Curious what OS you're running that tagging is enormous task? I can do this in Windows with a broadcom adapter in about 30 seconds. Apr 24, 2012 at 5:16
  • @EugeneM: It doesn't require bonding, it just requires trunking. Providers add additional IPs without requiring you to reconfigure your server because the IPs are in the same subnet. Apr 24, 2012 at 5:24
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    More likely, they just put each IP (other than the first) in its own subnet and routed them to the host as /32s. You can also put multiple subnets in the same VLAN. I'm not sure why you think that won't work in your environment. Apr 24, 2012 at 5:47

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Trunk the interface going to the server.

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  • does it require additional server configuration (like re-building linux kernel with 802.1Q support) ?
    – Eugene M
    Apr 24, 2012 at 3:00
  • you should be able to do a vconfig add [eth device] [vlan], this will create a [eth device].[vlan] interface you can work with. Apr 24, 2012 at 7:01
  • take a look at this link cyberciti.biz/tips/… Apr 24, 2012 at 7:08
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Although it is common to have a 1-to-1 Layer 2 to Layer 3 mapping (aka vlan to IP network mapping), you don't have to.

If you really don't want a trunk, it might be appropriate to have multiple L3 networks exist within a single vlan. However, keep in mind that this could be a security risk as all that is needed to bypass firewall rules between the L3 networks on the ASA is a host to change its IP settings since they are all in the same vlan.

You need to decide the appropriate solution on your own of course. However, if you get comfortable configuring vlan trunks on both switches servers then you can feel confident that your decision wasn't made due to a bias towards taking a shortcut.

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  • thanks for the reply, that was my first thought to combine multiple subnets into the same vlan, but it looks like ASA 5505 doesn't support it. In our orifinal topology - all servers were connected through $30 dumb switch and everything worked just fine. I just can't believe that such complex devices for $4K cannot do what dumb switch does...
    – Eugene M
    Apr 24, 2012 at 3:37
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Well, I'm not going to waste time telling you you're doing it wrong, but there is a way to achieve what you want that's going to burn ports on your 3750 :)

Set the following: Port 1 on VLAN10 Port 2 on VLAN101 Port 3 on VLAN102

Ports 4-7 on a fourth VLAN, let's call it 103.

Now... connected Port 1 to Port 4, Port 2 to Port 5, Port 3 to Port 6, Port 7 to your server.

Ta da... you have just bridged your three VLANs back together... YAY.

This is all sorts of the "wrong way to do it", but I suppose it does get you what you want, all three broadcast domains merged back together. Your ASA may get pissy with you, you've been warned.

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  • that's a 1001st way to burn a switch ;) anyway, i wonder how every dedicated server provider can deliver different IP ranges (from totally different subnets) to the server with our having you reconfigure anything in the system...
    – Eugene M
    Apr 24, 2012 at 5:44
  • It will not burn the switch, lol. You're not even going to come CLOSE to hitting the ASIC limitations of a 3750. Apr 24, 2012 at 13:52
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    Just another good reason for me to hate the Cisco ASA :) Apr 24, 2012 at 13:58

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