Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) is a computer bus used to move data to and from computer storage devices such as hard drives and tape drives. SAS depends on a point-to-point serial protocol that replaces the parallel SCSI bus technology that first appeared in the mid 1980s in data centers and ...

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So you really can push a SATA2 disk into a SAS backplane?

There's only one SAS, right? Serial attached SCSI? The female connectors: SATA2 looks like: ------------| |------- And SAS looks : ------------+-+------- For me, the SATA2 male connector looks ...
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SAS / SAS2… compatible?

Is it theoretically possible to mix a SAS2 controller with a SAS expander? We just happen to have this scenario - the expander (which works fine with an older SAS adaptec controller) is not found and ...
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SAS SCSI Converter [closed]

I recentely bought a Seagate Cheetah 146GB SAS ST3146755SS 10K Performance 15K RPM Hard Drive from EBAY and do have a computer that supports SAS. The problem is that I need to convert it into a SATA ...
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Third-party SSD in Proliant g8?

Anyone having success with third-party SATA or SAS drives with Proliant G8's? I know the G7's were flaky and had BIOS issues. We're looking for real-world success stories with particular brands and ...
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SAS internal cable compatability

In the office, we've elected to whitebox go with a commodity approach to a certain class of server we'll eventually need a lot of. It's time to consider picking up a few more. It has been a year since ...
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Can I mix SAS and SATA2 drives on one controller?

I've read here that I can't mix SAS and SATA2 drives on the same controller - is that really true? I understand I shouldn't mix on the same channel, but the same card!? For example, when I plug my ...
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SAS or SATA for 3 TB drives?

We are looking to purchase new 3 TB enterprise-grade drives and can buy either SAS or SATA models. AFAIK, SAS generally gives better performance than SATA, but searching for benchmarks I found ...
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SAS HBA card or integrated with MB?

I need an entry level virtualization server for a few people and I like the Fujitsu line of this kind, but they all seem to have built-in SATA disk interfaces.. I'd like to use SAS disk and apparently ...
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PCIe SSD vs SSD vs SAS - which is best for Database?

Since I am going on shipping soon I wonder which generally will mostly boost the database performance ? The bridge question is - which will boost mostly a database which having a lot of random block ...
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AOC-LPZCR2 Equivalent RAID card

We have just had a 'AOC-LPZCR2 Low-Profile All-in-One Zero-Channel RAID card' fail. Unfortunately, we are unable to source one straight away. Does anyone know of an equivalent card which we could use ...
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Using SATA drives with SAS shared backplane?

Is it possible to use SATA drives when you have a SAS shared backplane to be able to address the drives?
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How to use SAS Expander with RAID card?

I've doing some researches since few days and I haven't really got an answer to my question. I am in the process of building a huge file server for the company I work for. We bought a server case ...
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HDD: performance differences between 7.2k SATA and 15k SAS

What is the rule of thumb in performance characteristics and differences between 7200rpm (SATA/SAS) and 15000rpm (SAS) hard disc drives of the same generation?
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How can a single disk in a hardware SATA RAID-10 array bring the entire array to a screeching halt?

Prelude: I'm a code-monkey that's increasingly taken on SysAdmin duties for my small company. My code is our product, and increasingly we provide the same app as SaaS. About 18 months ago I moved ...
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Software RAID for a petabyte storage array [closed]

I'm trying to build my first personal storage area network (flexible downtime, speed is not a priority) to hit 1 petabyte on a budget, and am considering a modification of the Backblaze pod as the ...
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IBM x3650 M1 SATA support up to 2 Tb

I have an IBM x3650 (M1 [i think because of DDR2 rams]), an as i know it only support SATA hard drvies only up to 1 Tb. Is there any RAID controller firmware/BIOS update which can give the server 2 ...
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Can I use a Smart Array P410 controller on a HP Proliant DL 180 G5 server?

This link says the HP Proliant DL 180 G5 server only supports Smart Array E200, E500, P400 and P800 controllers. Can I use a Smart Array P410 instead? Currently the server has only the default ...
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What cable do I require for SFF-8087 to SAS

I have a HP P410 and two 2.5" SAS Drives, i want to connect both those SAS drives to one port. I know the cable for the P410 is a SFF-8087 and ive seen plenty of adapters searching, but alot of them ...
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HP D2700 enclosure and SSDs. Will any SSD work?

I've got an HP D2700 enclosure that I'm looking to shove some 2.5" SSD drives in. Looking at the prices of HP's SSD drives vs something like an Intel 710 and even something less 'enterprisey', there's ...
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How does plugging in a SATA drive to an SAS backplane affect maximum cable length?

The limit on SATA cable length is 1m, whereas the limit on SAS cable length is 10m. When using a backplane which advertises support for SAS and SATA, with a SAS RAID controller and one SATA drive, ...
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GNU/Linux: SAS-disk detected as /dev/sg7 - not as /dev/sdb

I have just installed a SAS disk into a Debian server. It was detected correctly and everything was fine. Then I moved the SAS disk to a different Debian server, the same hardware model and running ...
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How is the boot order of SAS drives determined?

This probably seems like a simple question, but hear me out. Here's the scenario that caused me to ask this question, as this is not so much a "how to" question but a "why" question: I was trying to ...
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26 hard drive limit on x86 servers, IBM x3650, Dell PE 2950, Dell PE 2850, where is my limitation?

This is in regard to mass HDD wiping/testing. The software I use, WipeDrive Pro 5 and 7, both fall victim. I originally thought it was a limitation of the software, but after speaking with the ...
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Dell PowerEdge 1950 Drive Bay not showing in SAS Configuration Utility

We have a Dell PowerEdge 1950 in RAID 1. Recently, the drive in Bay 0 began rapidly blinking green (I'm guessing twice per second, indicating "identifying drive"). When I open the SAS ...
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What are the merits of SAS vs SATA drives? [closed]

What are the merits of buying SAS drives over SATA drives, or vice versa?
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Connecting our first tape drive (SAS) to SATA bus

Our small team is considering buying our first tape drive for backups. However, we are still lacking serious enterprise-grade servers and have to rely temporarily on SATA drives in our rigs. Cost ...
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Enterprise Tape Backup solutions

I'm currently attempting to re-architect a backup solution where I'm working. We've got 2 NAS devices, one in the office, one in the datacentre. The servers in the DC back up to the DC NAS, which ...
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What does a RAID controller do if its conection to a SAS expander is severed? [closed]

When you have a RAID controller managing an array over a large amount of disks in an external chassis with a SAS expander, what happens if someone accidentally powers off the external chassis or ...
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How to use SAS expanders with Adaptec 2405 Raid Card

I have a server with Adaptec 2405 RAID card. I have 4 hard drives attached to it. I want to add 4 more. Adaptec site says 2405 can handle up to 128 hard drives with SAS expanders. It's not clear to me ...
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Do SAS expanders work transparently with SAS controllers?

I'm new to SAS expanders and I'm trying to get things right. I understand that SAS expanders, when used with SAS controllers which supports expanders, allows you to utilise the full capacity of ...
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Using an SAS Expander with a SAS Controller of a different brand

I'm planning on assembling a server, and I'm just wondering if a SAS expander by IBM (such as this one) would allow me to use the RAID and other features (Battery-backed write-back caching) of a SAS ...
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Dell MD1000 and an x4 SAS connector throughput / layout

I'm trying to get my head around how a multi lane x4 SAS connector works in a DAS system such as the Dell MD1000. I understand that each lane is 3Gbps, and that multiple hard drives can share a lane. ...
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Error messages in x3550 related to hard drives not detected at bios level

I have an IBM x3550 when I start it I get the following messages: no logical drives found no int 13 drives to support bios not installed I go into diagnostics and I noticed that SCSI ...
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Using both expanders in HP D2700

I am considering purchasing an HP D2700 for use with SSDs (Samsung Pro 840's), for use in realtime playback of high resolution images. The D2700 has two I/O modules (which I assume are the actual SAS ...
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SAS/SCSI Errors in Syslog: Kernel FAILED

I have a Dell 2950 2U rackmount server with 3 146GB SAS drives in a RAID array, running Slackware 10.2 (an old version, I know). Recently I am seeing these errors in my /var/log/syslog repeating very ...
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SAS RAID Card not accepting disks

I have just purchased a Dell 6/IR SAS RAID card for a Dell SC1435 Poweredge Server that I bought a few months ago on eBay. When I got it, the SAS RAID card fitted (a 5/IR) was faulty and it was ...
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Is it ok to run 15k.6 and 15k.5 SAS disks in a SAN together?

I have a SAN (HP MASA 2012) running seagate Cheetah 15k.6 drives. One has failed and I have a replacement drive that is the same except for it is a 15k.5 drive. Is this ok to run in the SAN? What are ...
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No drives showing on LSI 2008 SAS + HP SAS Expander

Followin this guide http://www.servethehome.com/supermicro-x8si6-f-motherboard-review-including-onboard-lsi-sas-2008-controller/ I got myself an RPC 4224 case (They are called Inter-Tech in Europe, ...
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New HDD swap in SAS 6 ir shows it is missing?

SETUP: Dell Poweredge T410 with Windows Server 2003, SAS 6 IR Raid-1. Both the original drives were Dell Certified Seagate Barracudas for enterprise, 250gb. The new HDD is a Seagate Barracuda 500gb, ...
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HA Cluster having tower 4U server with SAS

I'm a little bit confused in here.. I want to have 2 node cluster with shared storage. I read all wiki page about HA cluster. Now in my head there's a scheme like: So we have two 4U tower servers ...
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HP ProLiant DL360 G4p compatibility with external SAS enclosure

I have a ProLiant DL360 G4p and a StorageWorks MSA60. The SmartArray controller currently in the DL360 is a SmartArray 6400. I would like to upgrade it to a controller with external mini SAS so I ...
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HP Proliant DL140 G3 not booting after installing SAS E500 Controller

The controller is an HP Smart Array E500 Controller and the disk array is an HP Smart Array MSA50. I have the bios boot order set to have the internal RAID 1 array as the first boot choice, then the ...
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What type of SAS/SATA cables do Dell SAS6/iR and SAS5/iR controller cards use?

I'm considering buying a bunch of these to upgrade our servers at work (with SATA drives, not true SAS). We are out of ports to plug disks into, and these cards are decently supported and cheap. The ...
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RAID card w/1x mini-SAS connector : how do I physically connect 16 disks?

I'm looking at a MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i Sgl card which has a single X4 Mini-SAS SFF8087 connector. As far as I know, such a connector can be expanded to 4 SATA disks. So, I would know how to connect 4 ...
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Why are enterprise SAS disk enclosures seemingly so expensive?

I will begin by stating that I do not believe this is a duplicate of Why is business-class storage so expensive?. My question is specifically about SAS drive enclosures, and justifying their expense. ...
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External SAS cable or adaptor with 90 degree plug

We have an HP tape autochanger mounted in a rack, but it's so deep that with the external mini-SAS cable plugged in we cannot close the rear rack door - if we did we'd crush the SAS cable well beyond ...
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Accessing data on SAS drives if server fails

If my server goes down, how can i access the data on the SAS drives? I don't have another server to plug them into, and even then connecting the drive to a different controller (while keeping the ...
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Monitor SMART Values of a SAS/SCSI drive with Munin

I'm trying to monitor my two SAS drives using the SMART Tools Plugin for MUNIN. On SATA drives its no problem, all SMART values are being shown. It seems that smartctl doesn't output valuable SMART ...
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Can the Intel C600-series SAS controller RAID SATA drives?

(Sorry if this is off-topic - technically this is a home workstation setting, but is regarding mostly-server technology.) I have a GA-X79S-UP5-WIFI motherboard and four ST3000DM001 drives, and the ...
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Does the order of SAS drive matter when installing old drives?

I have an old IBM server with 12 hard drive bays, 4 of which are used (SAS 72GB drives), and configured in a RAID 1 array. The server will be sent away for repairs, when it comes back, do I need to ...