# Why is the wrong name server information at crsnic.net & gtld-servers.net?

Did I screw this up? I don’t even know how this might have happened, so I’d like to learn. I’m trying out HostGator’s reseller service and I bought a domain name through it, but I didn’t want the default name servers and so I changed them during the registration. After registration the domain name record is correct everywhere except at whois-servers.net and whois.crsnic.net and it looks like the DNS network is using that same information.

$whois -h whois.enom.com. example.com ... Name Servers: dns1.name-services.com dns2.name-services.com dns3.name-services.com dns4.name-services.com dns5.name-services.com ...$ whois -h whois.crsnic.net. example.com
Domain Name: EXAMPLE.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: http://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS1.HOSTGATOR.COM
Name Server: NS2.HOSTGATOR.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 01-jun-2010
Creation Date: 31-may-2010
Expiration Date: 31-may-2011

>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:20:47 UTC <<<
...
\$ dig +norecurse @b.gtld-servers.net. example.com. NS
...
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
example.com.      172763  IN      NS      ns2.hostgator.com.
example.com.      172763  IN      NS      ns1.hostgator.com.
...


My next step is to let HostGator have a look, but first I want to better understand how this happened.

Thanks.

• How long ago did you make the change it can take 24-48 hours for the who-is to update. – Campo Jun 1 '10 at 19:52
• I did it last night, but I've never had to wait more than four hours for any such change since about 2005. – danorton Jun 1 '10 at 19:55
• It’s probably not directly related, but it’s also interesting to note that ns2.hostgator.com isn’t actually resolved anywhere except in this glue record. – danorton Jun 1 '10 at 19:57
• have you tried to use your registrars who is? Do you get the same output? Does the site resolve using the correct name server? If its just the who is info and its not effecting the site then I would say wait a little longer and see if it changes. I agree it shouldn't take more than 4 hours and that's even pretty long. Check your TTL and you can try setting it lower to make the process a little quicker. – Campo Jun 1 '10 at 20:02
• The registrar is enom. It’s the first output above and it’s correct. Beyond that, as the DNS network is wrong, the information at the correct nameserver is moot. In any case, I have confirmed that it is correct. If this is just a matter of waiting, I wonder who’s being so abnormally slow about this. eNom? HostGator? Simply bad luck? – danorton Jun 1 '10 at 20:16

I would contact the registrar to ensure they actually pushed the change out to the root DNS servers and have the correct information on file. I haven't used HostGator specifically, but some of the registrar APIs that I've had to talk to in the past have been.... glitchy.

• Thanks, Justin. It’s too late now to see any external evidence, so I’m going to conclude that HostGator got something out of sync. That their name servers themselves aren’t properly listed is a pretty big clue. – danorton Jun 4 '10 at 12:45
• Oh, and I used eNom’s web interface in a HostGator subaccount, so it wasn’t HostGator’s use of the API, anyway. – danorton Jun 4 '10 at 12:52
• You do not need to contact the registrar to check that... just query the registry authoritative DNS servers. – Patrick Mevzek May 6 '17 at 11:45

The way it’s supposed to work is that when you update registration information for .COM, .NET, and .EDU domain names, the registrar should send the the new WHOIS information to CRSNIC. The problematic situation described above is one possible result when that transfer fails.

While it’s arguable that CRSNIC might have dropped the ball somewhere, eNom could have automatically checked to confirm that the CRSNIC record had been updated, and obviously didn’t.

I would conclude that eNom failed to properly transfer (and confirm the transfer of) the updated WHOIS name server information to CRSNIC.

• Very confusing reply. CRSNIC is just an old alias of the registry for .COM/.NET and there is no "whois information", whois is a query protocol and interface. The registrar just send information to the registry, this is not called a transfer. And until now .COM/.NET is a thin registry so the registry has only information about nameservers, dates and statuses, nothing about contacts & such (that you do still see in a whois output) – Patrick Mevzek May 6 '17 at 11:48