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I'am using Putty on windows with key-based authentication to access some of mine servers.

It works totally fine with ~3700-bit key, but with ~17000-bit key it thinks for like 20 seconds on client-side and then just says "Access denied" and asks for a password.

Is there any key length limit or timeout in OpenSSH for key-based authentication?

I understand that using such large keys have not much practical sence, especially when looking at these 20 seconds of calculation, just trying to solve any problems I face :-)...

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  • I have seen similar problems happen on some OpenSSH versions, which I worked around by using a key length which was a power of two.
    – kasperd
    Mar 24 '15 at 19:02
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At one point I looked into the source of OpenSSL for Diffie-Hellman keys, and found there was an "arbitrary" 10K limit on the size of DH keys. I changed the source for a test, and found that worked. I wrote a bug to the authors, and they replied back that it was design intent to prevent DoS by using massive keys.

Wouldn't surprise me to see something similar in OpenSSH.

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There is no maximum key size or timeout defined in the protocol (or at least none that you'd be hitting), but an implementation might not support such long keys. A 20-second processing time with the private key doesn't sound high for a 17kbit RSA key. Then the server might not want to spend too much computing power on an unauthenticated user: refusing very large keys is a protection against DoS attacks.

Currently 2048 bits is considered reasonable for an RSA key; 4096 bits is higher than necessary but usually supported; beyond this you shouldn't be surprised if some programs to reject the key.

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  • This protection looks reasonable. Is it tunable or hardcoded in the sourcecode? Jul 14 '10 at 11:40
  • There's no option for this in the manual, so any limit must be in the source code. That said, I don't know if there actually is a protection, I just meant that it would be reasonable to have one. I suspect that AndreasM's answer is closer to the mark. Jul 14 '10 at 16:17
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Were you able to generate that size of key on the intended target system? You may be running into a limit to what is supported. Rather current Centos system of mine supports a 16k maximum which seems sufficient for massive keys. You should see the maximum if you try to go above it with ssh-keygen as shown below.

[nathan@omni ~]# ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 32768
key bits exceeds maximum 16384
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  • Same on Debian 8.2. My netbook might spend quite a while generating this 16384-bit key... the things I do for laughs. Sep 23 '15 at 20:10
  • Same on "Git Bash" for Windows 7, which is based on MinGW. Jul 22 '16 at 10:16
  • Also same on OpenSuse Leap 42.1. Jul 23 '16 at 7:47
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The openssh Server has a LoginGraceTime setting. From the man page:

The server disconnects after this time if the user has not suc-
cessfully logged in.  If the value is 0, there is no time limit.
The default is 120 seconds.

This could be a limit that you are hitting if it is set to 20 seconds.

Wild guess: It could also be that putty itself has this limit, thinking that if the client side processing of the public key authentication takes that long, something is wrong.

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  • I've thought the same, and set LoginGraceTime 1200 Well, error message is in the console, so I doubt it's something in Putty... Jul 14 '10 at 12:41
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    Check the server logs. With a key size like this I get: RSA_public_decrypt failed: error:04067069:lib(4):func(103):reason(105). (because of the key size apparently.) I'll try a 2^n key.
    – AndreasM
    Jul 14 '10 at 14:12
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    16384 bits seems to work. For results with 32kbits see hermann-uwe.de/blog/… :)
    – AndreasM
    Jul 14 '10 at 14:22
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    You deadly right: Found thid: sshd[1014]: error: RSA_public_decrypt failed: error:04067069:lib(4):func(103):reason(105) So this must be a bug in sshd/OpenSSL :-) Jul 15 '10 at 12:55

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