I realize this is a crazy question, but has anyone ever tried to provide a host with their own memory for a dedicated box? I am running on an alright rig on ServerBeach but like any host, they are holding RAM hostage. Its a bit absurd to me for hosts to expect people to pay $25/month+ per GB these days. You can almost buy ram for that price.

I'm wondering if they'd laugh at me if I called and asked if I could send them 24-48 gb of ram (half to go in my box, the other half for them to keep to compensate if they ever had to replace it). I'd send them the exact same ram they use to avoid compatibility issues and I'd obviously pay for their standard install rates, expecting or even offering to pay a premium for this.

Would I get laughed at? heh


Its worth a shot, but I'd assume the reason they charge so much for extra RAM is because they have a corner on the market, and therefore can get away with it. Since you don't have access to the box, and are most likely going to need more ram, they can get away with charging so much for it.

Much like a crack dealer giving you the first little bit on the cheap.

Your also asking them to let you introduce an unknown quantity into their systems. How do they know you haven't done some sort of crazy NSA hacking on those ram chips so you can break into their network. (Ok, thats pretty far fetched, but I hope you see what I'm trying to say).

In response to the other answer "You'd be doing them a favor to let them know a valid concern you have as a customer. You'd be finding out if they value their customers. Go for it."

Thats about the same as suggesting I go complain to the oil companies because of the price of gas. Their making tons of profit, raking in the dough by charging the customer for what they can't do themselves (pump and refine oil into gas). OF COURSE they know their screwing you, and their laughing all the way to the bank about it.

The server hosting company in question is doing something you can't, host a server in a big fat pipe. I'm sure you could go lease an OC3 and host one yourself if you want 5 more gigs of ram in your machine...but 5 more gigs is what, 125$ a month...vs how much is an OC3 lease? Back to my example of the oil companies: You could go buy an oil derrick and a refinery, but are you really going to save any money for just hosting one machine? Nope. ANd thats where this (and every other) hosting company has you over a barrel.

Its worth a shot, but I'm sure they know what their doing when it comes to their pricing model.

  • Executive summary: "Get another provider." – David Schmitt Jun 8 '09 at 7:09
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    Other option is to deploy your own server in a co-location. No need to cover the leasing costs, and most of them will offer you full access to your machine if they are given enough notice. – Mark Henderson Jun 8 '09 at 7:14
  • Very good point on suggesting a Co-location. If you want a badass server, you'll save money as long as your not squeemish about taking care of your own hardware. – Logan Jun 8 '09 at 9:28
  • I've thought of co-location but theres the issue of hardware replacement in the event of failure. I'd have to build at least a layer of redundancy in to safeguard against hardware failure. Even then, I'm not sure if co-locations provide hardware replacement services. – Chance Jun 8 '09 at 13:10
  • Chance - Well then...if you don't want to provide your own hardware thats sort of what that $25 a month for ram is for. Try going to a car shop and saying "hey, I need a new alternator put in, can I go buy my own at autozone and have you guys install it?". 99% of the time they'll laugh you out of the shop because they making money raping you own parts costs. – Logan Jun 8 '09 at 21:02

You'd be doing them a favor to let them know a valid concern you have as a customer. You'd be finding out if they value their customers. Go for it.


It's worth a shot, but I'm sure they will say no.

Sadly $25 isn't bad. Rackspace was charging us $50 a Gig.

This is one of the downsides to using a MSP (Managed Service Provider). You are locked into them, with no other options and they know it (especially if you are under contract). SOP for these guys is to reup that contract any time any little change is made so that you can't ever leave. I know one time we added a new LUN to the SQL Server, and the contract they sent over reup'ed the contract for all the servers. Now, our bad for not reading the contract, but they shouldn't have tried to sneak that in.

Big surprise we are in the middle of moving out.


There's also the issue that it might not just be RAM you're paying for, often companies will roll other "related things" into components like that.

eg. If their systems are limited to, say, 32GB per machine, that's only 8 customers at 4GB each. If one customer wants 5GB, they'll have to add an entire new machine.

  • Well, he did mention it's a dedicated box... – Martijn Heemels Sep 7 '09 at 21:37

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